1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:14,080 This is Hacker Public Radio episode 3,917 for Tuesday the 8th of August 2023. 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:20,200 Today's show is entitled, Response to Permission tickets by ONF Spones. 3 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,720 It is hosted by D&T and is about 7 minutes long. 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,320 It carries a clean flag. 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:33,240 The summary is, hopefully a useful provocation and response to a recent intriguing show 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:40,440 by another HPR host. 7 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Hello and welcome to another exciting episode of Hacker Public Radio. 8 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:51,840 This here is a response to 3909 called Permission tickets by ONF Spones. 9 00:00:51,920 --> 00:01:00,240 This was a really good show, very well written, not too long, and one of Spones says 10 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:08,240 it's a preview show for some future self-referential tangle of cryptographic distraction, 11 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,640 which sounds great. 12 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,480 I just wanted to, I was typing a comment and then it was kind of getting long, so I decided 13 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:24,400 to record a response show and then you may notice that I was on Hacker Public Radio just 14 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:32,000 a couple of days ago in tomorrow or something I would be on it again, and that was because 15 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,960 I had a scheduled show and then one show came out of the reserve queue and then I'm posting 16 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:40,800 this as a response show and I'll talk a little more about that later. 17 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:48,160 Anyway, so the show by ONF Spones was very good, very interesting stuff. 18 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,600 I really recommend you listen to it and it's very much in line with the previous shows by 19 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,880 that host. 20 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:02,000 It's always been at this kind of standard and I wanted to talk about just one part of what 21 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,960 he's talking about here and that is, for example at the end here I'm looking at the whisper 22 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:14,000 transcription. It says, so as a disclaimer, if it wasn't clear at the beginning, if you recognize 23 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,800 that someone who exchanges a bunch of money for a bunch of cryptographic tokens is essentially 24 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,640 holding next to nothing at all, then you are halfway to recognizing that someone hold 25 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:28,000 who holds a bunch of money is holding next to nothing at all. 26 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,680 What they need is to convince somebody to exchange or to swap for the permission tickets which 27 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:41,360 they have acquired in quote, that's very good too many crypto fans don't recognize even that, 28 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:48,320 but I would like to point out here that there is actually one very important difference between 29 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:55,920 these crypto currencies and state-backed currencies and that is that within that state, it is legal 30 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:05,200 tender in one of the primary ways in which this manifests is that the state accepts it as 31 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:13,920 for tax payment. So that's kind of the number one thing that gives state-backed money, it's value, 32 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:19,520 right? It's not just that people will accept it and this seems to be something that a lot of the 33 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:30,400 crypto fans don't seem to remember. So the thing about that is that we seem to in the 21st century 34 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:38,240 to be kind of in the habit of destroying things that we already had and then just rebuilding them 35 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:45,040 in a less good form and then we're just stuck with this downgraded form of the thing that we actually 36 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,080 already had. We just didn't realize that we were just rebuilding the same thing, 37 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:57,600 only not as good as the one that we had before, right? This happens, I think I'm going to put in the show 38 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:07,520 notes this episode of the Harper's podcast where they discussed the writers strike here in the 39 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:15,440 United States, the Hollywood writers strike and they kind of touched on the idea that, you know, 40 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:23,040 these streaming services, they kind of destroyed the traditional TV industry in the US based in Hollywood 41 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,200 and they really didn't actually make anything new. They were simply allowed by the state 42 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:35,840 to destroy the industry that already existed and they just basically dominated it and replaced it 43 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:41,760 with an industry that's just much less equitable and according to the person that was being interviewed 44 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:49,360 on that podcast, this is now reflected in this strike. So I think we should be wary of situations 45 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:55,200 in which we make, we kind of fool ourselves into thinking that we're innovating, we're building 46 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:01,920 this new thing but really we're just replacing you with within inferior version of something that we 47 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:09,120 already had, not because the thing that we already had was necessarily good but just because we 48 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:16,080 suffer from a pretty overwhelming lack of imagination. All right, so that was my comment on the show 49 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:23,200 by one of spoons and before I posted this, I went on Matrix on the Matrix channel and I raised 50 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:30,080 this idea because I already had shows on the calendar so we try to stick to only one show every 51 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:36,800 two weeks so that nobody can kind of dominate the main feed but I kind of raised the idea that 52 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,160 maybe response shows should be exempt from that because it's kind of nice for you to appear in the 53 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,080 in the main feed pretty close to the show you're responding to and also maybe that's a good 54 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:57,200 way to fill slots you know to we have the reserve queue when there's an unclaimed slot very close 55 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:06,640 to the date it's supposed to air so maybe another decent way for hosts to fill slots is to 56 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:14,000 record a response show like the one I just did. Also personally I'm a fan of these of conversations 57 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:22,320 and this can be kind of like a play by male conversation where each participant in the conversation 58 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:32,560 will only speak after several days so with this I invite one of spoons to write to post a comment 59 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:41,440 on my comment or just post that upcoming show about the the tango of cryptographic something or 60 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:48,800 other so that could also be a good way for a new host to post their first show you know if you have 61 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,960 a comment about a show or thoughts about a show which undoubtedly you do from time to time 62 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:02,640 maybe it can be a kind of a simple way to post your first show by sort of remixing or 63 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:10,480 starting from somebody else's show and what did you think about that? I think I would like to hear it 64 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:17,680 hopefully this was useful thanks again to one of spoons for the show I'm looking for a 65 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:25,840 that was very good very well done thank you and now please come back tomorrow for another exciting 66 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:34,480 episode of Hacker Public Radio thank you. You have been listening to Hacker Public Radio 67 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,800 at Hacker Public Radio does work. Today's show was contributed by a HBO artist like yourself 68 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:47,200 if you ever thought of recording podcast you click on our contribution to find out how easy it 69 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:53,760 means hosting price we are has been kindly provided by an onsthost.com 70 00:07:53,760 --> 00:08:00,400 the internet archive and our synced.net on the satellite stages they show is released under 71 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:09,200 creative comments attribution for going to international license